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An important guest to get to Dr. Reiner Fumick is with us now and he is in Germany and my

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understanding is, is actually filing a lawsuit, correct me if I'm wrong, filing a lawsuit

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over many of the lockdowns that have occurred around the world.

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And you say it's because of these, I'm gonna read it here, current geopolitical changes

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in the world are regarded as crimes against humanity.

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Can you speak to that?

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Yeah, well, we filed that lawsuit today here in Germany.

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It's part of a larger strategy of lawsuits.

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We are in very close cooperation with Bobby Kennedy's CHD and his team of attorneys.

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But this is the first step, we believe, which I think will attack the cornerstone

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of the current crisis, which are the PCR tests.

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Because we believe, after having listened to dozens of experts since July 10th here in Berlin

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in our Corona Investigative Committee, we believe that this is a staged pandemic.

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This is nothing, this is nothing to do with health.

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But everything to do with what Bobby Kennedy just talked about,

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they're very concrete dangers for democracy in particular for free speech.

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So we believe that in order to make this house of cards collapse, we have to attack the PCR tests.

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Because in the meantime, we have learned from the WHO that the actual danger of this so-called pandemic

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is no worse than that of a common flu at 0.14% infection fatality rate.

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And we also know that there are no asymptomatic infections.

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So what is left is the PCR test.

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We know that from listening to our witnesses, we know that this particular now so-called

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Drustin PCR tests, which supposedly tells you something about infections,

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does not tell you anything about infections.

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But rather, it is being used as a tool to keep people in panic mode

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and not ask any questions about what they are supposed to do,

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like mask wearing requirements, social distancing, the lockdowns.

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Okay, so let me get a little bit of clarification here on some things.

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So you said that the lawsuit was filed this morning.

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Who have you filed against?

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This is a defamation lawsuit.

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Our plaintiff is Dr. Wolfgang Vodak.

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I don't know if you've heard about him.

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He's the person who more or less single-handedly stepped in 12 years ago

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when something very similar to what's happening now was about to happen,

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namely the swine flu.

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He's the one who was then in a position of political power.

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He was a member of the German parliament,

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and he was also a member of the Council of Europe.

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And he managed back then to stop things from getting any worse,

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even though it had gotten pretty bad at the time that he stepped in,

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because there were already vaccinating people

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with a hastily invented vaccine,

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which eventually did a lot of damage to, I think, 700 children here in Europe.

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They're now permanently disabled, suffering from narcolepsy.

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But he is the one who stopped this,

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and he did great work showing to the general population throughout the world

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that even then, this so-called swine flu wasn't any worse.

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It was just a mild flu eventually, and that's what we believe this is.

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So he's the person you're suing, though?

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No, no.

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He's the plaintiff, and we're suing a group of people,

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yeah, we're suing a group of people, so-called fact-checkers,

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which they're not, of course, they're manipulating the truth.

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They're being hired by the corporations

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that Bobby Kennedy just spoke about by YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter.

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Exactly.

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And we're suing them because, and this is clad in a defamation lawsuit.

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I'm doing this for reasons of burden of proof.

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This group of people is accusing Dr. Vodak of lying

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when he says that the PCR tests are unreliable

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and cannot tell you anything about infections.

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So we're doing two things.

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We're killing two birds with one stone.

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On the one hand, we're protecting Dr. Vodak,

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who is back in the picture now, back,

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and who's visible now for the general public,

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because as I said, he's the one who did a great job 12 years ago,

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unmasking, so to speak, the swine flu.

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And at the same time, we're attacking the people who are behind this,

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behind this staged pandemic by attacking the PCR tests.

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So when you say that you're attacking the PCR tests,

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what you're saying is you're doing that through a defamation lawsuit,

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if I'm understanding this correctly, saying Dr. Vodak is being attacked

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on social media or censored or defamed on social media

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because of statements he's making about the PCR tests.

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Therefore, we are suing for defamation in order to force those fact-checkers

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to present their evidence as to why the statements that he has made

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about PCR tests are untrue. Do I have that correct?

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Precisely. And you even got the burden of proof correct

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because it's up to them to prove that he's lying.

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But a complaint that we've written is very well stocked

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with lots of evidence already, testimony and expert testimony

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and publications by experts in scientific journals,

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including Professor Kemmerer, who is a biologist and immunologist

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at the University of Wurzburg here in Germany,

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including Dr. Mike Yeaton. You may have heard of him.

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He's a former vice president of Pfizer.

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And I think he was, for 16 years, he was their chief science officer.

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But there's others as well. So this is not something to be taken lightly.

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And I think the other side will know this once they read this.

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I think what's interesting, because obviously, you know,

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just to be clear here as a disclaimer, you know,

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I have no evidence that PCR tests don't work.

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I have no evidence that they're flawed.

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Having said that, this strategy is very interesting to me

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because of the fact that the fact-checkers,

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let's be clear about this, whether it's in Germany,

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whether it's in the UK or here in the United States, right?

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Or Australia, the fact-checkers themselves

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never seem to present evidence as to any of the reasons

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why information is removed or censored, taken down,

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you know, thrown down the memory hole.

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That burden has never been placed on them legally

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to say we have proof that the person here is lying.

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They simply label you as someone who is untruthful

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or spreading misinformation.

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So the fact that they would be required to then come forward

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and present evidence that proves one thing or another,

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do you believe that you are setting a precedent

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by doing this that can be followed,

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almost a blueprint that can be followed in other countries as well?

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Excellent. You hit it right on the spot.

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That's precisely what we're doing.

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This is going to be a precedent.

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This is one of many, many, many complaints.

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We're going to file here in Germany and throughout Europe

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through the other law firms in all the German-speaking

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countries, Australia, Switzerland,

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but also the other countries' lawyers who we cooperate with.

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But this same complaint is going to be used,

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or a large part of it is also going to be used

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by our American and Canadian colleagues

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because in the meantime everybody agrees.

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All the lawyers who have kind of dug into this,

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all of them agree that the PCR test

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is the cornerstone of this entire hoax.

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And again, is there any evidence that you can provide today

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that shows the PCR tests don't work?

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Yeah, there's no scientist in this entire world

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who will claim that a PCR test can detect infections.

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PCR tests are not designed for diagnostic purposes.

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They're not admitted for diagnostic purposes.

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I've seen all the videos by the inventor of the PCR.

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A PCR test is a great tool.

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It makes things visible to the human eyes,

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which are otherwise not visible by amplifying it,

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by making those molecules that you take with these swabs larger

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so that eventually you can see what this is all about.

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But they are not in any way capable

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of telling you anything about infections.

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In particular not when these PCR tests are set

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at more than 25 cycles.

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Everybody agrees because cycles of amplification that is.

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Everybody agrees, including the New York Times,

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which is part of the mainstream media,

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which again, as Bobby Kennedy just alluded to,

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is, apart from investing their money

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in the pharmaceutical and tech industry,

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they've also, the other side, I'm calling them,

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they've also invested much of their money

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in the mainstream media.

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But even the New York Times, in an article

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that was published in August of this year,

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agrees that anything beyond 35 cycles

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is completely and utterly unscientific

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and completely useless.

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Now the tests we're talking about,

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the infamous Drustin test,

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which is what the so-called Professor Drustin,

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here from Charité University in Berlin,

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invented in order to show the world

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that by using these tests,

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you can see infections, you can detect infections.

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This test was used worldwide

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because it was pushed by the WHO

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as a sort of gold standard

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to find out about how many infections there are

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with COVID-19.

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Fascinating stuff.

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Dr. Reiner, thank you so much

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for taking the time today.

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And personally, I wish you great luck

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in your lawsuit against those tech companies

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and their censorship.

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I think it's needed badly,

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not just in Germany, but worldwide.

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Thank you.

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Thank you very much.

