WEBVTT 00:00.180 --> 00:03.340 I'm going to interview this student here, what is your name? 00:03.620 --> 00:04.080 I'm Natasha. 00:04.440 --> 00:06.340 Natasha, and you're a student where? 00:06.660 --> 00:07.780 Western Washington University. 00:08.220 --> 00:11.060 Right, and she interviewed Mark Sargent. 00:11.200 --> 00:11.560 Yes, I did. 00:11.600 --> 00:13.220 But she's interviewing about the community. 00:15.560 --> 00:17.540 And I said to her, I said, but what if someone 00:17.540 --> 00:19.080 put a gun to your head, flat or globe? 00:19.200 --> 00:20.260 And she said, globe, but I said, 00:20.560 --> 00:21.460 do you want to go live on TikTok? 00:21.980 --> 00:22.560 And she agreed. 00:23.060 --> 00:25.340 So I'm trying to get somebody to hold the camera 00:25.340 --> 00:26.560 so we can both be on camera. 00:27.240 --> 00:30.200 So I said to you, gun to your head, flat or globe. 00:30.440 --> 00:32.400 So there must be a reason. 00:33.100 --> 00:33.480 Yes. 00:34.220 --> 00:38.280 I guess, well, I've been kind of thinking about why do I 00:38.280 --> 00:38.800 believe that? 00:39.040 --> 00:40.440 Because I'm an English major. 00:40.760 --> 00:42.860 And so all like, science-y stuff kind of 00:42.860 --> 00:45.020 goes in one ear out the other. 00:45.520 --> 00:46.880 But I think, I don't know. 00:47.040 --> 00:48.900 I mean, I'm at a university. 00:49.380 --> 00:52.860 And so like, faith in institutions and faith in institutions. 00:52.860 --> 00:53.940 So it's a religious belief. 00:54.300 --> 00:54.480 Yeah. 00:54.980 --> 00:55.140 Yeah. 00:55.380 --> 00:55.560 Totally. 00:55.560 --> 00:57.540 You totally admit that it's a religious belief. 00:57.700 --> 00:57.840 Absolutely. 00:57.980 --> 00:59.020 That's why you believe there is a globe. 01:00.020 --> 01:03.300 If you believe in something, you have to have some proof of it. 01:03.420 --> 01:05.660 Otherwise, it's just a faith-based religion. 01:06.360 --> 01:07.220 So are we done? 01:07.500 --> 01:08.360 It's a faith-based religion? 01:08.540 --> 01:08.680 Yeah. 01:09.360 --> 01:10.260 Well, thanks, everybody. 01:11.420 --> 01:12.360 That's all we have. 01:12.900 --> 01:13.140 Yeah. 01:14.740 --> 01:15.980 But I'm interested because you played 01:15.980 --> 01:16.680 to get that response. 01:16.980 --> 01:19.480 Let me ask you, well, that's an intellectually honest 01:19.480 --> 01:22.140 response, but it's also a little word 01:22.140 --> 01:23.240 that I'm not allowed to say on TikTok. 01:25.200 --> 01:29.180 So if the Earth is, if all balls have curvature, 01:29.860 --> 01:32.980 so if the Earth is a globe, it has a required amount of curvature 01:32.980 --> 01:34.200 over a certain amount of distance. 01:34.520 --> 01:36.800 So do you know how much curvature there is in three miles? 01:37.540 --> 01:37.720 Nope. 01:38.180 --> 01:39.040 OK, it's six feet. 01:39.220 --> 01:39.360 OK. 01:39.940 --> 01:41.560 And then 10 miles, it's 66 feet. 01:42.100 --> 01:44.580 So if you are standing at the edge of perfectly calm water, 01:44.840 --> 01:47.380 you can only see the surface of the water about three miles 01:47.380 --> 01:49.500 because then it'll be below the curve. 01:50.220 --> 01:52.600 So if something's below the curve, you can't see it. 01:52.600 --> 01:53.120 Right? 01:53.300 --> 01:55.380 You and I are outside, and I duck behind the hill. 01:55.480 --> 01:55.920 Can you see me? 01:56.620 --> 01:56.760 No. 01:57.060 --> 01:57.440 Of course not. 01:57.500 --> 01:59.920 I'm blocked by a physical curve just like the Earth. 02:00.120 --> 02:03.360 But we can see things that are far beyond the physical limits 02:03.360 --> 02:03.840 of a globe. 02:04.320 --> 02:06.260 How would you reconcile that in your religion? 02:07.540 --> 02:08.200 I don't know. 02:08.320 --> 02:09.180 I would ask a scientist. 02:09.620 --> 02:13.240 So a scientist, that's a deferring to authority fallacy. 02:13.580 --> 02:16.340 So somebody that read a book memorized what was in that book 02:16.340 --> 02:18.560 and regurgitated it, so you trust them. 02:20.120 --> 02:20.600 Yeah. 02:22.360 --> 02:23.360 I'm like, I don't know. 02:23.740 --> 02:25.060 I'm like, I'm just. 02:25.320 --> 02:26.160 What's the chat saying? 02:26.400 --> 02:27.040 What's the chat saying? 02:27.300 --> 02:28.040 I'm just all excited. 02:28.480 --> 02:31.520 All right. 02:32.200 --> 02:35.420 So I have to be able to get through to you 02:35.420 --> 02:37.280 because you're the future of America, right? 02:37.760 --> 02:38.620 You're the future of the world. 02:38.900 --> 02:42.240 You can't just go through life believing in things that 02:42.240 --> 02:42.700 are fake. 02:42.980 --> 02:45.120 You can, but that's not good for the world. 02:45.540 --> 02:46.720 You want to make a difference in the world? 02:47.000 --> 02:47.720 It matters. 02:47.720 --> 02:48.360 Yeah. 02:49.120 --> 02:50.500 So do you believe in God? 02:53.240 --> 02:54.360 It's a good question, right? 02:55.360 --> 02:56.460 When I was your age, I didn't. 02:56.520 --> 02:56.780 Yeah. 02:57.600 --> 02:58.360 No, I didn't grow up religious. 02:58.360 --> 03:01.480 What if you actually took the time and looked at the earth 03:01.480 --> 03:04.300 and realized it is flat, which means it's intelligently 03:04.300 --> 03:06.280 desired, which means that you don't have to believe in 03:06.280 --> 03:06.480 anything. 03:06.700 --> 03:09.080 You have to understand that there is someone that created it 03:09.080 --> 03:10.460 because it can't just create itself. 03:11.560 --> 03:13.240 So wouldn't that be important to know? 03:13.740 --> 03:13.860 Yeah. 03:14.180 --> 03:16.340 But you're at a point in your life that you just want to 03:16.340 --> 03:16.760 get an A. 03:17.580 --> 03:17.840 No. 03:18.220 --> 03:19.120 That's why I'm here. 03:19.280 --> 03:21.740 I want to like I'm here for you to tell me all these things. 03:21.740 --> 03:22.240 Well, I don't want to. 03:22.300 --> 03:25.280 I want you to think like when you said the first thing you 03:25.280 --> 03:26.400 said is I'm not a scientist. 03:26.820 --> 03:27.020 Yeah. 03:27.120 --> 03:27.260 Right. 03:27.600 --> 03:28.620 Well, what is a scientist? 03:28.900 --> 03:31.440 A scientist is someone that uses a God-given common sense 03:31.440 --> 03:35.800 critical thinking and and and applies it to their life. 03:36.000 --> 03:36.220 Right. 03:36.420 --> 03:36.620 Yeah. 03:36.960 --> 03:37.160 Right. 03:37.300 --> 03:38.500 Can you walk through that post? 03:39.060 --> 03:39.200 No. 03:39.460 --> 03:39.740 Okay. 03:39.800 --> 03:40.640 Well, you're not a scientist. 03:40.860 --> 03:41.240 How do you know? 03:41.440 --> 03:41.720 Go try. 03:42.840 --> 03:45.020 Well, that's the that's the teticism. 03:45.100 --> 03:45.260 Right. 03:45.400 --> 03:46.700 So like, is that like it? 03:46.740 --> 03:47.260 So that comes. 03:47.400 --> 03:50.120 Well, that's what I'll talk about where we see too far. 03:50.340 --> 03:52.700 So we can see and make sure you come to my presentation 03:52.700 --> 03:54.300 tomorrow because I have some stuff there. 03:55.600 --> 03:59.400 We can see far, far, far beyond the limitations of a globe. 03:59.540 --> 03:59.700 Yeah. 03:59.860 --> 04:00.000 Right. 04:00.320 --> 04:02.320 Now on a flat earth, the horizon would just be optical 04:02.320 --> 04:05.040 where the sky and the ground come together. 04:05.040 --> 04:07.200 But on a globe Earth, it's a physical curve. 04:07.320 --> 04:07.540 Yeah. 04:07.700 --> 04:10.340 But since we can see so far beyond it and some of the 04:10.340 --> 04:12.240 measurements we have would say the Earth is a thousand 04:12.240 --> 04:13.360 times bigger than they tell us. 04:13.440 --> 04:15.580 Well, if it's a thousand times bigger, maybe there's 04:15.580 --> 04:16.540 thousands of continents. 04:17.500 --> 04:18.580 Isn't that important to know? 04:18.720 --> 04:18.820 Yeah. 04:19.020 --> 04:19.200 Of course. 04:19.600 --> 04:19.780 Right. 04:19.880 --> 04:22.160 But it's not a thousand times bigger as far as it 04:22.160 --> 04:22.220 could. 04:22.360 --> 04:22.800 It's not a globe. 04:22.980 --> 04:25.480 There is no curvature over any amount of distance. 04:28.000 --> 04:28.700 Why do you still believe? 04:28.860 --> 04:29.720 Why are you holding onto that? 04:29.840 --> 04:31.880 Is it because that's what you were brought up with? 04:32.340 --> 04:33.020 I think so. 04:33.180 --> 04:35.620 I guess I'm like, I'm trying to not hold on to it 04:35.620 --> 04:36.340 while I'm here. 04:37.200 --> 04:39.940 And so I guess that that's I'm trying to just be a 04:39.940 --> 04:40.900 blank slate. 04:41.240 --> 04:43.760 And so I want to like I want to be honest about like 04:43.760 --> 04:49.000 what I've grown up with and like what I like what I'm 04:49.000 --> 04:49.720 conditioned to do. 04:49.720 --> 04:50.680 Do you believe in Santa Claus? 04:51.360 --> 04:51.640 No. 04:51.920 --> 04:52.820 Did you used to? 04:53.780 --> 04:54.080 Yeah. 04:54.340 --> 04:54.660 Okay. 04:54.820 --> 04:55.080 Yeah. 04:55.080 --> 04:57.040 Well, your parents told you that there was a Santa 04:57.040 --> 04:59.240 Claus and then you grew up and you found out it wasn't 04:59.240 --> 04:59.480 true. 04:59.800 --> 04:59.900 Yeah. 04:59.940 --> 05:01.640 Do you wish you still believed in Santa Claus? 05:02.040 --> 05:02.800 Probably right. 05:03.240 --> 05:04.040 It would be cool. 05:04.080 --> 05:04.420 Bad question. 05:04.800 --> 05:05.040 Yeah. 05:05.380 --> 05:05.700 Okay. 05:06.140 --> 05:08.440 Well, so you want to live in a fake world or you want to 05:08.440 --> 05:10.460 live in a world where you really understand reality? 05:11.060 --> 05:12.720 Is there a way to really understand reality? 05:12.900 --> 05:13.200 There is. 05:13.320 --> 05:14.180 We get closer to it. 05:14.200 --> 05:14.880 We're not on a ball. 05:15.020 --> 05:15.560 Here's the thing. 05:16.400 --> 05:19.480 The government, government is to control, meant is the 05:19.480 --> 05:19.760 mind. 05:19.940 --> 05:25.440 So the mind control, they make laws with a big L that 05:25.440 --> 05:28.180 you have to abide by. 05:28.340 --> 05:29.320 But they're not God's laws. 05:29.500 --> 05:32.340 God is nature and there's only natural law. 05:32.540 --> 05:34.900 But if you believe you live on their ball, you have 05:34.900 --> 05:36.380 to play by their ball field rules. 05:37.460 --> 05:38.720 Do you want to play by their rules? 05:39.460 --> 05:41.320 Do you want to give away half your money? 05:41.580 --> 05:43.720 You know, when you make your money, do you want to 05:43.720 --> 05:46.040 not know that you're at the center of creation? 05:46.200 --> 05:48.560 Do you not want to live to your fullest potential? 05:48.880 --> 05:52.000 Because your mind can create the reality that you 05:52.000 --> 05:53.420 want, but they don't want you to know that. 05:54.720 --> 05:57.120 Well, but if my mind can create the reality that 05:57.120 --> 05:59.980 I want, then how do I know that it's like the 05:59.980 --> 06:00.680 truth? 06:00.940 --> 06:01.600 Is it just my truth? 06:01.600 --> 06:05.360 You can create, what I mean by that is a lot of 06:05.360 --> 06:07.880 people, the way that they think dictates what 06:07.880 --> 06:09.000 happens to them in their lives. 06:09.160 --> 06:10.700 If you're a negative person, you attract 06:10.700 --> 06:11.560 negative people. 06:12.180 --> 06:13.760 And if you're a positive person, you attract 06:13.760 --> 06:15.640 positive people, birds of a feather flock together. 06:15.860 --> 06:18.780 You know, attention goes where thoughts flow 06:18.780 --> 06:19.800 or whatever that thing is. 06:20.400 --> 06:20.860 Is that right? 06:21.860 --> 06:24.820 Attention flows where thoughts go or energy, 06:25.040 --> 06:26.740 where energy flows where attention goes. 06:27.160 --> 06:28.120 Either way, you know what I'm saying. 06:28.220 --> 06:28.360 Yeah. 06:30.660 --> 06:32.460 So when I first learned about Flat Earth, 06:32.540 --> 06:33.940 first I really killed it, then I wouldn't 06:33.940 --> 06:34.500 look at it. 06:34.600 --> 06:36.200 And then I looked at it and I'm like, 06:36.880 --> 06:38.220 okay, well, both over the horizon. 06:38.680 --> 06:40.180 Well, that's taken out of our seasons. 06:40.460 --> 06:41.520 That actually proves Flat Earth. 06:42.020 --> 06:43.020 You know, sunsets. 06:43.120 --> 06:44.780 I'm like, that makes perfect sense on a Flat Earth. 06:45.180 --> 06:46.160 And all of the stuff. 06:46.380 --> 06:47.660 And then I said, well, what difference does it make? 06:47.720 --> 06:48.840 I still have to go to work on Monday. 06:48.840 --> 06:49.060 Right? 06:49.520 --> 06:50.080 What difference does it make? 06:50.200 --> 06:50.720 I still have to go to school. 06:51.460 --> 06:53.380 It makes all the difference in the world. 06:53.640 --> 06:55.480 Because I actually don't have to go to work on 06:55.480 --> 06:55.760 Monday. 06:55.760 --> 06:58.560 Although I work every day, all day and all night, 06:58.580 --> 06:59.520 but I do what I love. 06:59.640 --> 07:01.180 So you know the saying, if you do what you love, 07:01.240 --> 07:02.380 you'll never work a day in your life. 07:02.840 --> 07:02.860 Yeah. 07:03.060 --> 07:07.820 So maybe, you know, in school, you take math classes. 07:08.300 --> 07:09.520 You have to, by requirement, right? 07:10.180 --> 07:10.780 No, no more. 07:11.080 --> 07:12.400 You did them already though. 07:12.700 --> 07:14.740 You did Algebra. 07:15.460 --> 07:16.220 You did Geometry. 07:16.760 --> 07:17.560 You did Calculus. 07:18.240 --> 07:19.780 You didn't get the Calculus. 07:19.920 --> 07:20.680 No, it's dance. 07:20.680 --> 07:25.640 You got statistics and accounting. 07:26.500 --> 07:27.220 I never did that. 07:27.220 --> 07:27.960 You never did it. 07:28.180 --> 07:30.400 But the math that they teach you in school is slave math. 07:30.540 --> 07:32.780 It's to make you go, to be able to go work for a government, 07:32.980 --> 07:34.000 work for a corporation. 07:34.360 --> 07:34.800 OK, yes. 07:35.300 --> 07:37.700 But you've never even heard of sacred geometry, have you? 07:38.880 --> 07:39.820 You might have heard it. 07:39.860 --> 07:40.000 Yeah. 07:40.200 --> 07:40.740 No, but no, yeah. 07:40.780 --> 07:41.660 Vortex mathematics. 07:42.320 --> 07:43.020 Ever hear about that? 07:43.180 --> 07:43.460 Not at all. 07:43.520 --> 07:44.980 If you knew about those things, 07:45.060 --> 07:46.760 it would change the way you see the world. 07:46.820 --> 07:46.860 Yeah. 07:46.960 --> 07:49.760 But they hide that information from you, right? 07:49.760 --> 07:51.180 You believe in global warming? 07:51.900 --> 07:51.920 Yeah. 07:52.280 --> 07:52.520 OK. 07:52.820 --> 07:55.060 Well, that's all another complete and total hoax. 07:55.220 --> 07:56.440 Do you believe in overpopulation? 07:58.220 --> 07:59.020 Not really. 07:59.200 --> 07:59.640 Well, that's good. 07:59.880 --> 08:01.060 At least you're awake to that. 08:01.480 --> 08:04.700 The population they give us on the earth is less than half. 08:05.020 --> 08:06.740 It's half of what they're saying or less. 08:07.160 --> 08:09.340 I think it's closer to two to three billion, maybe less. 08:10.280 --> 08:10.400 OK. 08:10.620 --> 08:12.860 So it's not that you think that there could be more people. 08:13.180 --> 08:15.060 First, you ever fly across the United States? 08:15.260 --> 08:15.420 Yeah. 08:15.420 --> 08:16.380 There's nothing there. 08:16.680 --> 08:17.240 I know. 08:17.360 --> 08:18.260 My flight here was crazy. 08:18.260 --> 08:19.180 You're lying about the numbers. 08:19.380 --> 08:21.440 Like, if you take the top 50 cities in China 08:22.000 --> 08:25.200 and you look at their population, it's like not even a billion. 08:25.200 --> 08:27.080 It's like 900 million people or a billion people. 08:27.200 --> 08:29.480 But they say there's three point something billion in China. 08:29.600 --> 08:29.800 Yeah. 08:29.800 --> 08:31.940 So there's two billion people living in the little suburbs. 08:32.700 --> 08:33.180 I don't think so. 08:33.280 --> 08:33.480 Yeah. 08:33.740 --> 08:34.660 It's an impossibility. 08:35.220 --> 08:36.200 Mojo, how you doing? 08:37.500 --> 08:37.900 Good. 08:40.140 --> 08:42.760 So going back to Flatter Globe, 08:43.200 --> 08:46.800 I have a million dollars you can win if you guess the right one. 08:46.800 --> 08:47.620 And we know the truth. 08:47.980 --> 08:48.140 Right? 08:48.400 --> 08:51.800 So now, with what I'm talking about, you got your religion on the side. 08:52.100 --> 08:53.680 Someone's offering you, I'm not offering you a million dollars. 08:53.860 --> 08:56.060 But if someone's offering you a million dollars, if you get it right, 08:56.200 --> 08:58.800 and the truth is in the envelope, they actually have the actual truth. 08:59.140 --> 08:59.620 What would you pick? 09:02.000 --> 09:02.900 What would you pick? 09:03.260 --> 09:04.080 You want to win the million dollars? 09:04.200 --> 09:04.840 Pick the one that's real. 09:05.200 --> 09:06.620 Well, who's offering it to me? 09:06.620 --> 09:08.280 Well, let's say the government, not me. 09:08.400 --> 09:10.960 Let's say somebody that absolutely God's here. 09:11.280 --> 09:12.120 God shows up. 09:12.160 --> 09:12.280 OK. 09:12.420 --> 09:16.640 Or somebody that absolutely has the undeniable truth about the world. 09:16.640 --> 09:17.560 What would you pick? 09:18.480 --> 09:21.980 I just don't know if I can go for undeniable truth. 09:23.020 --> 09:26.720 So what is your, the question is, what is your evidence of the globe? 09:27.280 --> 09:28.760 You have to have some evidence. 09:29.300 --> 09:31.400 JT, join this conversation. 09:31.760 --> 09:32.200 OK. 09:32.840 --> 09:35.520 You have to have, so this is a lovely student, Mark, 09:35.680 --> 09:37.440 that she interviewed Mark Sargent about the community. 09:38.120 --> 09:39.100 This is JT over here. 09:39.420 --> 09:39.740 All right. 09:39.980 --> 09:41.240 JT, run Boston Bear. 09:41.440 --> 09:42.040 Run Boston Bear. 09:42.180 --> 09:42.380 All right. 09:42.500 --> 09:42.940 Good, how are you? 09:43.140 --> 09:44.140 And Joe Hanvey. 09:44.860 --> 09:45.820 Hi, nice to meet you. 09:45.820 --> 09:46.640 I'm Natasha. 09:47.200 --> 09:47.320 Right. 09:47.480 --> 09:48.780 So she interviewed Mark. 09:48.860 --> 09:49.700 She's talking about the community. 09:49.900 --> 09:50.340 She's a student. 09:50.600 --> 09:52.640 And I said, gun to your head, flat or globe. 09:53.000 --> 09:53.740 And she's like, globe. 09:54.620 --> 09:56.800 And I have to, and she, right out, very honest. 09:56.960 --> 09:58.880 I said, I said, what's the reason? 09:59.020 --> 10:00.760 And she basically said, it's just a really, just really, 10:00.860 --> 10:02.880 just a belief that there was no evidence. 10:03.060 --> 10:03.960 And she doesn't care. 10:04.280 --> 10:07.460 I mean, I guess the first fundamental question is, 10:07.560 --> 10:08.420 does truth matter? 10:11.740 --> 10:12.940 Does truth matter here? 10:14.920 --> 10:16.020 Does truth matter? 10:16.200 --> 10:17.820 Be truth in all things. 10:17.940 --> 10:19.000 Does it matter or not? 10:21.900 --> 10:22.700 Pretty important. 10:22.920 --> 10:23.620 I mean, somebody got you. 10:23.680 --> 10:24.440 I'm not trying to trick you. 10:24.480 --> 10:24.960 No, I know. 10:25.060 --> 10:26.060 I'm thinking about it. 10:26.300 --> 10:31.340 I like, because what I've been talking about in regards to this 10:31.340 --> 10:35.520 a lot is like, how do we, how do we create truth? 10:35.740 --> 10:37.360 How do we know things to be true? 10:37.500 --> 10:38.720 And is there even a way? 10:39.180 --> 10:40.960 And so it's hard. 10:41.140 --> 10:41.520 I don't know. 10:41.520 --> 10:43.260 It's hard to say because I don't know, 10:43.420 --> 10:47.540 and right now I feel like there's a way for me to say, 10:48.780 --> 10:51.460 yes, I know something to be true. 10:51.840 --> 10:55.440 Well, there's different aspects of truth, right? 10:55.540 --> 10:57.280 Because you can have your truth about something, 10:57.400 --> 10:59.420 or I can have mine and like hold on to it 10:59.420 --> 11:01.580 and it not be like harmful in any way 11:01.580 --> 11:02.960 because you have a right as an individual 11:02.960 --> 11:05.500 to pursue life and happiness and joy 11:05.500 --> 11:07.220 and you might not want to do this or that 11:07.220 --> 11:09.540 but I guess when I ask, does truth matter? 11:09.540 --> 11:11.820 I mean like be truth on the subject 11:11.820 --> 11:13.140 that it can be found out about. 11:13.940 --> 11:17.630 Like if we don't, okay, if we don't live on a spinning planet 11:18.200 --> 11:21.140 orbiting the sun, that's a story that man made up 11:21.140 --> 11:22.500 because that's their understanding 11:22.500 --> 11:26.720 and then somebody said, would you like me to share with you 11:26.720 --> 11:27.840 maybe what it could be? 11:28.260 --> 11:29.880 And it's a different truth than what we were told 11:29.880 --> 11:30.920 when we were like tiny kids 11:30.920 --> 11:32.140 because that's what got me into it. 11:33.380 --> 11:34.740 I do believe there's a creator. 11:34.940 --> 11:38.080 I think all this is too fantastic and beautiful 11:38.080 --> 11:40.480 and precise and amazing for there not to be a creator 11:40.480 --> 11:43.260 and I have my specific view on who that creator is 11:43.260 --> 11:45.600 and I'm not here to argue with people religiously 11:45.600 --> 11:49.060 but if there's a creator and this is how I got my wife to 11:49.060 --> 11:51.300 even let me look into what is the truth 11:51.300 --> 11:54.580 because she's a physician and she was in the Air Force 11:54.580 --> 11:56.240 and a lot of this stuff has to do with like 11:56.680 --> 11:59.320 yes sir, to the authority and don't get out of line 11:59.820 --> 12:02.040 I said if this loving, powerful creator 12:02.040 --> 12:04.760 made something artistically, infinitely in his power 12:04.760 --> 12:06.540 that wasn't this idea 12:07.040 --> 12:10.440 if it was stable, fixed, enclosed in a firmament 12:10.440 --> 12:13.080 or hermetically sealed or something different 12:13.080 --> 12:15.960 I want to know what that is, to honor him 12:15.960 --> 12:18.140 and so that's what began the journey for me 12:18.140 --> 12:19.140 three and a half years ago 12:19.140 --> 12:21.300 and then I hid behind a screen name 12:21.300 --> 12:22.220 like Run Boston Bear 12:22.220 --> 12:24.200 this was for me to be online 12:24.660 --> 12:26.780 and say, question, what is this? 12:26.920 --> 12:27.820 What are you guys talking about? 12:27.920 --> 12:28.660 I was so confused 12:29.100 --> 12:30.860 never knew my face would be coming out 12:30.860 --> 12:31.820 I have a YouTube channel 12:32.260 --> 12:33.500 never knew I'd be public 12:33.500 --> 12:36.680 and even like professing that it matters to seek truth 12:36.680 --> 12:39.720 but now I realize that it's more foolish 12:39.720 --> 12:42.640 to hide and be nervous than to be bold 12:42.640 --> 12:44.560 and show your face and show who you are 12:44.560 --> 12:45.860 and your intentions because I could be wrong 12:46.360 --> 12:47.460 but I don't think I am 12:47.460 --> 12:49.460 I mean once you look into the sciences 12:49.460 --> 12:52.340 like interferometry is like using lasers 12:52.340 --> 12:54.580 to take motion 12:54.580 --> 12:58.820 well there's a lot of things to tell 12:59.420 --> 13:01.080 if we're moving at the speeds they say 13:01.080 --> 13:03.620 because it should be 30 kilometers a second around the sun 13:03.620 --> 13:05.120 30 kilometers a second 13:05.120 --> 13:05.940 it's too fast 13:05.940 --> 13:06.960 you can't even fathom that 13:06.960 --> 13:07.420 not at all 13:07.420 --> 13:08.300 you can't fathom it 13:08.300 --> 13:10.380 we can go deeper into it 13:10.380 --> 13:14.500 but I say the best thing you can possibly do 13:14.500 --> 13:17.380 is hold on to the belief that we're on a globe 13:17.380 --> 13:18.460 and heliocentrism 13:18.460 --> 13:19.720 the whole thing we were taught as children 13:19.720 --> 13:21.020 about the planets and space 13:21.020 --> 13:23.180 hold on to that as being a possibility 13:23.180 --> 13:24.780 because it's a theory to this day 13:24.780 --> 13:25.580 as being truth 13:25.580 --> 13:28.380 but then maybe listen to what some of these other folks are saying 13:28.380 --> 13:30.860 like you know stationary flat and movable 13:30.860 --> 13:32.700 because to me the earth is moving 13:32.700 --> 13:34.400 when there's a landslide or an earthquake 13:34.400 --> 13:35.820 that's why people are like 13:35.820 --> 13:36.660 there's an earthquake 13:36.660 --> 13:37.860 because like now 13:38.330 --> 13:39.540 like which way are we going 13:39.540 --> 13:39.980 yeah 13:39.980 --> 13:41.060 and which way are we spinning 13:41.060 --> 13:42.340 it gets 13:42.340 --> 13:43.720 it can be pretty like 13:43.720 --> 13:44.500 debated 13:44.500 --> 13:46.340 oh it's so slow 13:46.340 --> 13:47.500 that you're not gonna be able to feel it 13:47.500 --> 13:48.000 and this and that 13:48.000 --> 13:49.420 but my original question 13:49.420 --> 13:51.260 like it's okay to ask 13:51.260 --> 13:52.460 and then in the medical 13:52.460 --> 13:53.740 like there's a medical 13:53.740 --> 13:55.000 there's a historical 13:55.000 --> 13:56.920 there's multiple veins 13:56.920 --> 13:58.180 where asking the question 13:58.180 --> 13:59.420 what's really going on here 13:59.420 --> 13:59.880 what's the truth 13:59.880 --> 14:00.640 will help you 14:00.640 --> 14:01.760 throw as a person 14:01.760 --> 14:02.560 make sure let me 14:02.560 --> 14:03.420 share a little 14:03.420 --> 14:04.080 yeah thank you 14:04.080 --> 14:05.140 what was your name 14:05.140 --> 14:05.660 I'm Natasha 14:05.660 --> 14:06.820 Natasha I'm JT 14:07.440 --> 14:08.800 yeah JT is my name 14:08.800 --> 14:09.280 yeah 14:09.280 --> 14:09.700 so 14:09.700 --> 14:11.760 I just want to tell you 14:11.760 --> 14:12.520 my story real quick 14:12.520 --> 14:13.720 I was you know 14:13.720 --> 14:15.020 since I was a little kid 14:15.020 --> 14:15.740 requesting things 14:15.740 --> 14:17.100 but I'd had a conspiracy podcast 14:17.100 --> 14:18.540 called deep inside the rabbit hole 14:18.540 --> 14:19.660 and I was 14:20.780 --> 14:22.280 I was questioning everything 14:22.280 --> 14:23.400 and when the water earth came up 14:23.400 --> 14:24.180 I kind of just like 14:24.180 --> 14:25.200 that's just up too far 14:25.200 --> 14:26.680 and then I was forced to look 14:26.680 --> 14:27.160 and I went in 14:27.160 --> 14:27.920 not with an open mind 14:27.920 --> 14:28.660 with a closed mind 14:28.660 --> 14:29.680 just to disprove it 14:29.680 --> 14:31.680 and that didn't work 14:31.680 --> 14:32.060 right 14:32.060 --> 14:32.680 and here I am 14:32.680 --> 14:33.200 Flat Earth Dave 14:33.200 --> 14:35.100 but back then 14:35.100 --> 14:36.240 I'd be listening to podcasts 14:36.240 --> 14:37.700 and taking pages of notes 14:37.700 --> 14:38.880 this is great 9-11 14:38.880 --> 14:40.020 bam bam bam 14:40.020 --> 14:40.980 right down all the notes 14:40.980 --> 14:42.860 and then they go 14:42.860 --> 14:43.480 let's pray 14:43.480 --> 14:44.340 or open up a Bible 14:44.340 --> 14:44.880 patch up like 14:44.880 --> 14:46.000 these are religious fanatics 14:46.000 --> 14:46.800 tear up the notes 14:46.800 --> 14:47.520 unsubscribe 14:47.520 --> 14:48.720 never listen to them again 14:50.600 --> 14:51.480 and then 14:51.480 --> 14:52.180 when I discovered 14:52.180 --> 14:53.240 that the earth is 14:53.240 --> 14:54.200 intelligent design 14:54.200 --> 14:56.180 it takes away any doubt 14:56.180 --> 14:57.620 there's even a quote in the Bible 14:57.620 --> 14:58.840 and the Bible quotes don't matter 14:58.840 --> 14:59.700 if you're not a Bible believer 14:59.700 --> 15:00.160 but it says 15:00.160 --> 15:01.600 once you see my creation 15:01.600 --> 15:02.820 basically paraphrasing 15:02.820 --> 15:04.640 you can no longer deny my existence 15:04.640 --> 15:06.000 and that's what the government 15:06.000 --> 15:06.920 the mind control 15:06.920 --> 15:08.100 doesn't want you in a situation 15:08.100 --> 15:09.420 where you can deny creation 15:09.420 --> 15:10.900 because once you realize 15:10.900 --> 15:12.140 that there is a creator 15:13.680 --> 15:14.820 then you can't 15:14.820 --> 15:15.860 then there you come 15:15.860 --> 15:16.660 uncontrollable 15:16.660 --> 15:18.020 and they want to control you 15:18.020 --> 15:19.420 you're doing a good job 15:19.420 --> 15:20.500 because you don't care 15:20.500 --> 15:21.800 you say you don't care 15:21.800 --> 15:23.220 but I love his question 15:23.220 --> 15:24.000 does truth matter 15:25.000 --> 15:26.780 I guess yes 15:26.780 --> 15:27.140 yeah 15:27.140 --> 15:27.520 yeah 15:27.520 --> 15:28.840 of course 15:28.840 --> 15:29.700 in a sense 15:29.700 --> 15:30.980 but I guess like 15:30.980 --> 15:32.120 I don't know 15:32.120 --> 15:33.680 does truth matter more 15:33.680 --> 15:35.200 than what people think of you 15:36.200 --> 15:37.240 than what people 15:37.240 --> 15:38.960 what people's opinions of you 15:38.960 --> 15:39.400 because remember 15:39.400 --> 15:41.120 everyone has an opinion 15:41.120 --> 15:42.340 and they also have 15:43.240 --> 15:44.340 a butthole 15:44.340 --> 15:45.280 okay 15:49.900 --> 15:52.200 so what somebody thinks of you 15:52.200 --> 15:53.200 versus truth 15:53.200 --> 15:54.680 you had to pick one of the other 15:54.680 --> 15:56.080 you care about truth 15:56.080 --> 15:57.480 or you care about what people 15:57.480 --> 15:58.180 think about you 15:58.760 --> 16:00.380 but I guess the way I'm thinking 16:00.380 --> 16:01.580 about like truth 16:01.580 --> 16:02.680 as we're talking about it 16:02.680 --> 16:04.500 and like multiplicity of beliefs 16:04.500 --> 16:05.800 is like 16:06.300 --> 16:07.840 is what people think of me 16:07.840 --> 16:09.120 not their truth also 16:09.120 --> 16:10.760 is that not also a form of truth 16:10.760 --> 16:12.380 well the truth is truth 16:12.380 --> 16:13.660 and truth is everyone's truth 16:13.660 --> 16:15.120 whether people want to face it or not 16:15.120 --> 16:16.380 like we're here 16:16.380 --> 16:17.520 we all know 16:18.200 --> 16:19.140 we don't live on a ball 16:19.720 --> 16:20.900 and you don't 16:20.900 --> 16:21.420 that's okay 16:21.420 --> 16:22.440 it just 16:22.440 --> 16:23.740 we're all flat earthers 16:23.740 --> 16:24.860 you just whether you know it or not 16:24.860 --> 16:25.340 okay 16:25.340 --> 16:25.700 right 16:25.700 --> 16:26.640 and so 16:27.280 --> 16:28.540 well the answer 16:28.540 --> 16:29.640 I was looking for is 16:30.380 --> 16:31.400 other people's opinions 16:31.400 --> 16:33.100 don't matter as long as you're authentic 16:33.100 --> 16:34.080 yeah 16:34.080 --> 16:35.440 and by you saying 16:35.440 --> 16:37.060 I think the earth is a globe 16:37.060 --> 16:38.440 because of religious reasons 16:38.440 --> 16:40.960 I see the proof of flat earth 16:42.300 --> 16:42.820 that's 16:43.440 --> 16:45.320 do you see an issue with that 16:45.320 --> 16:45.820 yeah totally 16:45.820 --> 16:47.580 okay so you see an issue with that 16:47.580 --> 16:47.660 yeah 16:48.400 --> 16:49.320 amazing amazing 16:49.320 --> 16:50.840 alright any final words 16:50.840 --> 16:51.940 not really 16:51.940 --> 16:52.420 thank you 16:52.420 --> 16:52.920 alright 16:52.920 --> 16:54.440 I would take your thing back 16:54.440 --> 16:55.720 Angel come over here 16:59.460 --> 17:01.620 Angels of Light is not upside down 17:01.620 --> 17:02.640 he's here 17:02.640 --> 17:03.780 from Australia 17:05.020 --> 17:06.000 taller than I thought 17:06.000 --> 17:06.860 I thought it was a midget 17:06.860 --> 17:07.280 to be honest 17:08.640 --> 17:09.820 I'd like to say there more 17:09.820 --> 17:10.680 and you 17:10.680 --> 17:11.500 take that 17:11.500 --> 17:12.460 that was no sense 17:12.460 --> 17:13.780 how was your night here 17:13.780 --> 17:15.380 at the International Truth Festival 17:15.380 --> 17:17.280 you slept in the RV 17:17.840 --> 17:19.020 yeah I slept well actually 17:19.020 --> 17:19.960 so I slept well 17:19.960 --> 17:21.360 alright awesome 17:21.860 --> 17:23.520 any did you hear 17:23.520 --> 17:24.720 what we were saying over here 17:24.720 --> 17:25.240 yeah a little bit 17:25.240 --> 17:26.120 I thought the intelligent 17:27.380 --> 17:28.260 she doesn't 17:28.260 --> 17:30.140 she thinks the earth is a globe 17:30.140 --> 17:30.680 but doesn't 17:31.420 --> 17:32.300 have any proof 17:32.300 --> 17:32.900 and she really 17:32.900 --> 17:34.600 agrees that it's a religious belief 17:35.300 --> 17:36.240 what do you do with that 17:36.240 --> 17:36.580 that's honest 17:37.500 --> 17:38.400 yeah that's what I said 17:38.400 --> 17:39.700 it's at least it's honest 17:39.700 --> 17:40.900 I mean at that point 17:40.900 --> 17:41.680 you just show evidence 17:41.680 --> 17:42.760 you know 17:43.200 --> 17:43.640 we 17:44.680 --> 17:45.960 airplane straight level flight 17:45.960 --> 17:47.000 proves it's flat 17:47.480 --> 17:48.960 the horizon proves it's flat 17:48.960 --> 17:50.280 I'm also playing 17:50.280 --> 17:51.040 purpose is flat 17:51.040 --> 17:52.120 the whole earth is just flat 17:52.120 --> 17:52.400 right 17:52.880 --> 17:54.180 everything is a flat evidence 17:54.180 --> 17:55.380 because there is no plug 17:55.380 --> 17:56.060 bye