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Now it's time to talk about the impossible

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Selenelian eclipse which is where this series was always headed of course

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It's no secret that Selenelian eclipses are geometrically impossible a quick Google search will bring up all kinds of sources

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including NASA

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talking about some upcoming

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impossible Selenelian and this is what that space.com article says

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But wait, how is this possible when we have a lunar eclipse the Sun Earth and Moon are in a

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Geometrically straight line in space with Earth in the middle

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So if the Sun is above the horizon the moon must be below the horizon and completely out of sight or vice versa and

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Indeed during a lunar eclipse the Sun and Moon are

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Exactly 180 degrees apart in the sky so in a perfect alignment like this a scissor G

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Such an observation would seem impossible, but it is atmospheric

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Refraction that makes a selenelian possible

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Atmospheric refraction causes astronomical objects to appear higher in the sky than they are in reality

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Ah the obligatory appeal to refraction once again

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This rescue device saves the ball Earth from terrestrial observations of objects that are geometrically hidden behind

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Hundreds or even thousands of feet of curve and from celestial observations that are admittedly also

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Geometrically impossible, and it is that geometrically impossible part that we must remember because it drives home the point that without the completely

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unsubstantiated claim that refraction can project the Sun Moon

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Mountains cities lasers and other objects that are geometrically hidden behind the curvature of the Earth up and around the Earth

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So that we can see them the entire heliocentric model is

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Observationally falsified a million times over but the refraction rescue device is why I did this series the way I did

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Starting with new moons and solar eclipses because whatever degree refraction can lift a full moon up and around the horizon

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It can lift a new moon right? Let me try to make this illustration at least a little closer to heliocentric's version of reality

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So this is my not-to-scale version of the Sun Earth and eclipsed peak new moon and what that NASA article called a

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geometrically straight line in space

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exactly 180 degrees apart in the sky and

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a perfect

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Syzygy alignment and their explanation for selenelians is that

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Atmospheric refraction causes astronomical objects to appear higher in the sky than they are in reality

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The idea is that although this Sun Earth and moon are in a geometrically straight line in space

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We see the Sun and moon in their higher refracted positions

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But if that were true then the same would apply for this solar eclipsing peak new moon

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Where the Sun Earth and moon are also in a geometrically straight line in space

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So if Middle Earth guy over here can see the eclipsed peak full moon straight above his head

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While terminator guy can see the refracted versions of the Sun and that same eclipse moon on his horizon

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Then Middle Earth guy over here can see the eclipse Sun at high noon while

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Terminator guy

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6,000 miles away can see the refracted version of that same eclipse Sun on his horizon

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But our resident globe proponents have assured us that it would be a minimum of 54 minutes after peak new

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Before a terminator guy could see the eclipse sunset and based on the actual solar eclipse observations

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I've shown in previous videos

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It seems to be closer to a two-hour time difference in many cases

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There is still so much more to say on this subject

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But while we let this part sink in and anticipate the but but but explanations from the ball earthers

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Let me finish with some footage from ron hagberg that many of you have already seen

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Ron shot this footage from chipley, florida on january 31st 2018 on that day in chipley

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The moon set at 6 34 and the sun rose at 6 34

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So both sun and eclipsed moon were on or at the very least at the horizon at the same time

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So here's ron on the terminator line in chipley, florida

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And here's his sun earth and eclipsed moon in a geometrically straight line in space

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180 degrees apart in the sky

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In a perfect scissor g alignment and ron is able to experience both sun and eclipsed moon on his horizon

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Because he's actually seeing them in the refracted positions, right?

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So I guess we can just forget about that 54 minute minimum that the globe earth

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Mathematicians told us about even though their minimum was supposed to be including dip angle and refraction

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But did you notice that ron's moon wasn't fully eclipsed?

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It was in the process of eclipsing from the top down no less at the time it's set in chipley

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So let's add in the earth's umbra

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Which is said to be 2.6 moon diameters wide at the point the moon crosses it

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And see how that works in this view as it turns out ron's moon set at 6 34 in chipley

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52 minutes before peak full moon, which wasn't until 7 26 am ron's time

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So the reason ron's moon was only in the process of becoming eclipsed when it set

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Is that the actual position of the moon at that time wasn't here

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But here

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And it's going to take one heck of a lot of dip angle and refraction

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For ron to see the moon set from his terminator line

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When it's still an hour on the other side of peak full

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But what if there is a way to eliminate their baseless dip angle and refraction rescue devices

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I'll take those on in my next video. Thanks for watching and thank you ron hagberg for this globe crushing footage that you shot

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This is just a quick and very important clarification on this part of my last video as it turns out ron's moon set at

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6 34 in chipley 52 minutes before peak full moon, which wasn't until 7 26 am ron's time

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So the reason ron's moon was only in the process of becoming eclipsed when it set

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Is that the actual position of the moon at that time wasn't here

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But here

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And it's going to take one heck of a lot of dip angle and refraction

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For ron to see the moon set from his terminator line

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When it's still an hour on the other side of peak full

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That last part was just me being facetious

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Let me make it very clear that globe earth proponents have no choice

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But to appeal to the absolutely baseless idea that refraction can raise the sun and moon higher in the sky

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Than their actual positions just to explain us seeing both sun and peak full moon on the horizon

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Ron's footage shows a moon that is an entire diameter on the other side of the peak full position

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There is no amount of refraction or other hand waving that will save the globe model from ron's observation

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Ron has single-handedly falsified the globe with his footage

