WEBVTT 00:00.620 --> 00:06.740 Hello there Dave McKegan has a new video that he seems to have plucked from the deep reserves 00:06.740 --> 00:09.460 I think he's possibly running out of material and 00:10.260 --> 00:15.900 When you look back over his old footage, you can really see that when Dave entered the field of 00:15.900 --> 00:18.800 smacking back so-called Flat Earthers 00:19.460 --> 00:21.600 he did so from a position of 00:21.600 --> 00:23.880 incredible naivety and 00:23.880 --> 00:30.140 Obvious ignorance when you watch the way he spoke back in the day now to this day in my opinion 00:30.620 --> 00:38.160 Dave still has very poor understanding of things like the way lenses work, which is bizarre because the guy's 00:38.160 --> 00:40.000 Supposedly a lens expert 00:40.540 --> 00:46.380 So getting things as wrong as he does just baffles me and perhaps embarrasses him 00:46.380 --> 00:52.280 But few people can actually detect that they're being deceived. They just love somebody like Dave 00:52.280 --> 00:56.860 They see him as a top shelf expert. I 00:56.860 --> 00:59.660 Don't know why but let's let Dave speak here for a minute 00:59.660 --> 01:04.540 And then we'll take a look at the photograph he wants to discuss in today's video 01:05.560 --> 01:09.680 Hello everybody, hope you're doing well and thanks for joining us for another video where today 01:09.680 --> 01:14.880 I'd like to address misconceptions about this photo, which is quite a well-known one of Concord 01:14.880 --> 01:22.440 Well, just because you're calling them misconceptions Dave, maybe it's you that's misconceiving, but we'll continue 01:23.480 --> 01:29.120 Now I referenced this photo in one of my earliest Flat Earth related videos about two years ago 01:29.120 --> 01:32.480 That was actually a pretty embarrassing video Dave 01:32.480 --> 01:37.660 We'll take a moment at the end of this video to revisit some of the strange 01:37.660 --> 01:40.360 Conclusions you were drawing back in the day 01:40.920 --> 01:46.260 Specifically for the fact that it is a photograph taken back in 1985 from an RAF tornado 01:46.260 --> 01:53.440 And it's a photo of Concord at a cruising altitude of around 50 to 60 thousand feet and the horizon is clearly curved 01:53.440 --> 01:59.040 Which I brought up at the time to address a very common Flat Earth claim that the horizon is apparently flat 01:59.120 --> 02:06.440 Well, now it's not just a Flat Earth claim to merely recognize that the horizon is flat and straight 02:06.440 --> 02:14.100 I think anybody can do that for themselves. Glober, our so-called Flat Earther reality is as it presents Dave 02:14.100 --> 02:20.820 And I tried to head off any potential claims that the photo was shot with a fish eye lens by pointing out that the Concord itself is straight 02:20.820 --> 02:21.780 And there- 02:21.780 --> 02:27.180 And how did you verify that the photograph wasn't cropped before you ever got to see it? 02:27.180 --> 02:32.600 That seems to be something you've overlooked on this one Dave and to be honest 02:32.600 --> 02:38.460 I'm thinking that the evidence leads me towards the conclusion that that's exactly what happened here 02:39.860 --> 02:42.980 If it was shot with a fish eye lens, it would appear curved 02:42.980 --> 02:48.500 I then joked that unless the Concord was normally very heavily curved the other way and the fish eye lens was just 02:48.500 --> 02:52.400 Straightening it out. Well, Dave, let's let's go and do a little testing 02:52.400 --> 02:59.200 Shall we let's see just what kind of a size this earth that you're imagining you live on would be? 02:59.520 --> 03:00.640 Let's go and test that out 03:00.640 --> 03:09.320 All right, so here we are inside a photo editor and as you can see I darkened down the photograph so that we could get clarity 03:10.220 --> 03:11.600 with the contrast 03:12.640 --> 03:20.820 Lighting there so we could see basically where the curvature is and then I created a curve to match Dave's imaginary 03:21.840 --> 03:22.820 ball earth 03:23.540 --> 03:25.920 So let's fade this out just so you can see 03:27.340 --> 03:34.160 How carefully that's been aligned. I think it's a pretty good match. It's not perfect, but it's not that bad. Let's fade it out 03:36.760 --> 03:43.620 You can see that we're definitely in the ballpark with this radial match 03:44.180 --> 03:45.660 See that very close 03:46.720 --> 03:49.800 There's obviously more distortion over this side from the lens 03:50.980 --> 03:52.500 But we're still pretty good 03:53.180 --> 03:54.580 That's a decent match 03:54.580 --> 03:57.660 So Dave, let's take a look at the size of the earth 03:57.660 --> 04:01.540 Considering in your opinion that this is true representation 04:01.540 --> 04:08.400 You said there's no lens interference and you spent 12 minutes making it very clear that we couldn't possibly be 04:08.400 --> 04:12.410 Seeing any kind of interference from the lenses. So let's zoom back and 04:13.240 --> 04:17.340 Start seeing just how big the earth are small the earth would be 04:17.940 --> 04:25.440 Zoom back just a little there and you can see already that Dave's Dave's plane is taking up 04:26.740 --> 04:32.040 Significant amount of the landmass of the earth. There's covering up perhaps 04:33.170 --> 04:36.820 The length of Great Britain, maybe this is a rough guess 04:38.000 --> 04:40.200 Let's continue to zoom out 04:44.560 --> 04:48.040 Look at that look at the size of Dave's plane 04:50.500 --> 04:52.640 On your imaginary sphere 04:53.460 --> 04:54.480 Look at that thing 04:54.480 --> 04:56.980 So this is your entire planet earth 04:57.720 --> 05:05.320 I watched a video by level earth observer earlier today and he was saying that I think he said it'd take about 20 minutes 05:05.320 --> 05:06.500 To fly around the earth 05:08.320 --> 05:14.300 My good friend no sir looking at the size of this planet and considering that the 05:15.340 --> 05:24.460 The Concorde could travel twice the speed of sound. I think we're talking about less than a second to do a full rotation of the earth 05:25.020 --> 05:27.680 But who knows Dave maybe knows better 05:27.680 --> 05:33.340 But yeah, this is our this is our Concorde up here and this is our this is our ball earth 05:33.340 --> 05:35.160 Let's zoom all the way out 05:35.160 --> 05:36.320 Look at that 05:37.120 --> 05:38.720 What do you think of that? 05:39.160 --> 05:45.420 Dave this is your picture here, sir, and this is your entire planet earth looks ridiculous 05:46.680 --> 05:53.200 So there's a couple of other pictures included in Dave's video. Let's zoom in a little more again drag it down 05:54.060 --> 05:56.820 And I will bring those pictures in too 05:56.820 --> 06:03.680 So we can take a look at other images that Dave in his video found to be absolutely convincing 06:04.580 --> 06:09.080 Evidence that the earth is curved. This was the one he mentioned 06:10.480 --> 06:16.240 Shot by some guys 70s fathers fathers lens from the 70s 06:17.820 --> 06:24.260 Preposterous an enormous amount of the earth being taken up there and then he also showed us this one 06:25.360 --> 06:29.340 From another plane and again, you know, we're just seeing too far 06:30.260 --> 06:34.820 This is outrageous to think that we're on a planet so tiny 06:36.560 --> 06:40.560 Well, I was out it I went ahead and threw on this one from the ISS 06:41.480 --> 06:46.520 Also seems kind of ridiculous to me. I think we're seeing too much earth and 06:48.300 --> 06:49.660 One more for you 06:52.440 --> 06:57.360 This is what I had to do with the recent Polaris Dawn mission 06:57.360 --> 06:59.620 Let's uh, let's reduce the 07:00.680 --> 07:05.740 The levels on this one so we can just see if um, let's just fade it out 07:05.740 --> 07:07.960 See if I got a good match on the on the radius there 07:08.540 --> 07:11.680 You can see that I got a decent match, but 07:12.640 --> 07:14.460 There's something going on over here 07:16.000 --> 07:20.820 It's flaring up here flaring up here dipping in here 07:21.480 --> 07:25.820 It's really not possible to turn a shape that isn't radial 07:26.420 --> 07:29.560 Into a radial curve. This is ridiculous 07:30.100 --> 07:32.660 You might say there's some kind of lens distortion 07:32.660 --> 07:39.700 We're out in space, but I'm not buying it not at all. It just looks absolutely terrible 07:39.700 --> 07:42.620 This was the Polaris Dawn space X mission 07:43.360 --> 07:44.020 so 07:45.200 --> 07:53.460 One thing that Globers seem to know and love is that any curvature is valid curvature on their imaginary 07:53.460 --> 07:57.980 Spaceball so before we go. Let's go back in time to Dave's 07:57.980 --> 08:05.040 Previous video that he referenced earlier on it's called flat earth argument that disproves flat earth theory 08:05.040 --> 08:08.380 I'm just gonna let Dave embarrass himself here 08:08.380 --> 08:14.860 This was back in the early days when he was trying to talk about how perspective works on a flat earth 08:14.860 --> 08:19.860 Really, he just shows incredible ignorance here and it's kind of embarrassing 08:19.860 --> 08:21.440 So let's go back and check this out 08:21.440 --> 08:26.740 There's another well-known photograph that was taken by a RAF tornado pilot of Concorde 08:27.700 --> 08:29.940 70,000 feet and 08:30.520 --> 08:35.660 You can clearly see the curvature to the horizon and the horizon's in the middle of the frame and 08:35.660 --> 08:38.260 Concord's below the centerline and it's straight 08:38.260 --> 08:43.600 So that's not a fisheye lens because otherwise the plane would be curved unless Concorde was already bent 08:43.600 --> 08:46.220 And I didn't realize and the curvature is just getting straightened out 08:46.220 --> 08:50.340 And it can't be the canopy for the same reason the plane Concorde looks perfectly flat 08:50.340 --> 08:56.180 So the horizon is curved, but even if you're a flat or you ignore all that anyway the very fact that flat earth 08:57.620 --> 08:59.580 There's no visible curvature anyway is 09:01.000 --> 09:01.480 ludicrous 09:02.160 --> 09:06.580 ludicrous for the fact that it disproves their own argument because they're trying to claim 09:06.580 --> 09:09.960 There's no visible curvature. So the earth must be a flat disc 09:10.460 --> 09:13.260 Except for example here. I have a pizza tray now 09:13.260 --> 09:15.180 I think we can all agree regardless of 09:15.180 --> 09:18.100 Flat earth or not. I think we can all agree that that is not a sphere 09:18.100 --> 09:23.500 Okay, that is a flat disc and yet so if we imagine that this is the flat disc of an earth and 09:24.080 --> 09:29.800 I put the camera above the center of it so that you now appear to be a weather balloon floating above it 09:29.800 --> 09:33.860 This is this is again Dave trying to understand scale 09:34.520 --> 09:39.300 See I just showed you earlier. He thinks he lives on a ball a little bigger than a basketball 09:41.280 --> 09:46.460 Meanwhile, he thinks you can see from the middle of a flat earth all the way to Antarctica 09:47.020 --> 09:52.640 And that's where your horizon is. It's always going to be formed by Antarctica according to Dave 09:52.640 --> 09:58.540 Back here in the early days of his investigations. Let's continue and let him speak 09:59.380 --> 10:03.560 That is not flat horizon that is curved if you don't stand in a football field 10:03.560 --> 10:05.800 If you don't stand in the middle of a football pitch in the center circle 10:05.800 --> 10:09.600 That is a flat circle that you are standing in the middle of it's curved 10:09.600 --> 10:13.660 If this was the size of the Antarctic 10:14.480 --> 10:20.760 Ice wall back here and you were viewing from here. You wouldn't see any further than there 10:20.760 --> 10:25.340 This is the range of your vision on this flat earth. That's it 10:26.000 --> 10:31.700 Because your eyes can only perceive so far before the horizon forms. It's an optical phenomenon 10:31.700 --> 10:34.800 There's no way you're going to be looking at Antarctica 10:34.800 --> 10:42.520 Of course, I'm just explaining this for Globers because most I think intelligent people understand this basic stuff 10:43.680 --> 10:50.540 Because it's a circle, which means that the only way to have a straight line horizon is with a straight line edge 10:50.540 --> 10:54.260 Which would then mean that the earth would have to be a square not a circle 10:54.260 --> 11:01.260 Except you would then have great big corners sticking. I just wanted to let him get to his square analogy there 11:01.260 --> 11:03.660 That's enough go check that video out 11:03.660 --> 11:08.680 And if you want you can also view a response video that I did about a year ago 11:08.680 --> 11:12.720 To try and cover some of this incredible thinking from Dave 11:13.420 --> 11:17.040 That's it for today, and I will talk to you again shortly